This article, parts 1 and 2 have been republished on unz.com as one long piece. If you found this interesting, it's worth looking there at the comments section because they have a very well informed audience, and sometimes they drop important additional information. Here is one I just noticed there:
Odyssey says: Next New Comment
November 1, 2024 at 4:58 am GMT • 4.9 hours ago • 400 Words ↑
A good and refreshing text for Western readers who usually don’t have the opportunity to read something that is not under the strict control of the Western mainstream media and their masters. When it comes to Ukraine, a few things should be added.
In 1750, Serbian settlers (soldiers and civilians of the former Military Krajina) founded two settlements in Imperial Russia – Slaveno-Serbia and New Serbia, with their capital in Bakhmut. New Serbia was a purely Serbian colony, while in Slaveno-Serbia, in addition to the vast majority of Serbs, other nationalities also came (including the Greeks mentioned in the text). Part of the text talks about Donetsk, but now few people know that the original name of Donetsk, which was founded by Serbs, was Slavyanoserbsk. At that time, there were no Ukrainians and no Ukrainian language and no name ‘Ukraina’.
The very name ‘Ukraine’ (=borderland, in Serbian) was given after Military Krajina (=borderland) from where these settlers came. The Military Krajina was a Christian belt stretched from the Carpathians to the Adriatic Sea and was formed to defend Europe against Ottoman penetration and Islam. The Serbian Military Krajina defended Europe from Islam.
By the way, this settlement gave few Serbian generals who distinguished themselves in the war against Napoleon. In the beginning, Serbs had their own churches and autonomy, but because of their similarities with the Russians, they quickly assimilated.
Later, the communists (Lenin, Khrushchev) added some Russian provinces and Crimea to create an artificial republic of Ukraine within the USSR. It would be fair now, when Ukraine is freed from Ukronazies, to return the original name to that area – New Serbia.
Ukrainians are not a nation, they never existed, they had no state, no history, no language, no literature, no religion. What does Crimea have to do with Ukraine except that a drunken Khrushchev said one morning that it would belong to Soviet Ukraine or that Lenin also decided that Donbass would be Ukraine.
Ukrainians are an artificial category created by the Vatican and the US with the aim of being cannon fodder in the campaign against the Russians and the creation of new Khazaria. Ukrainians don’t even have a name because the current means Borderland. Whose borderland? Russian borderland!
November 1, 2024 at 10:14 am GMT • 22.0 hours ago • 100 Words ↑
@Dumbo
You are right. The frontier was very harsh. There are many descriptions of how the Serbs came to the territory where there was nothing, no settlements, they had no building materials and they lived in dugouts, no tools, no seeds for agriculture, no wells, nor could they get anything from the outside, the distances were huge.
They slowly managed to build settlements, churches, schools and other infrastructure. In the beginning, they had territorial, church and school autonomy, hundreds of toponyms identical to the toponyms from their previous homeland, Serbia, special military units, whose generals distinguished themselves in the war against Napoleon, but were too similar to the Russians, the Empire also had its own imperial logic so that were soon assimilated. Descendants of those Serbian pioneers are probably now fighting on both sides against each other.
And here is a Polish-centric view. I think it's mistaken, but it's helpful to know some people think this way:
Anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:
November 1, 2024 at 9:13 pm GMT • 11.7 hours ago • 200 Words ↑
What a beautiful text sponsored by Moscow with lots of historical lies.
As a Pole, I am not a fan of either Russians or Ukrainians, but for centuries there has been a very clear distinction between these two nations in the Polish language. Ukrainians and Belarusians were called Ruthenians (Rusini) by Poles and Poles called Russians Muscovites (Moskale). For centuries, Ruthenians called Poles Lakhs/Lechs.
And this pseudo-Serbian troll didn’t come up with the idea that the toponym “Pol” could come from Poland? Kievan Rus was founded by the Poles (Polans/Polanie). This is recorded in Rutenian chronicles, as is the fact that Moscow was taken from the Finno-Ugric tribes by the Polish/Lechitic Vyatycze and Radimichi.
The Russians and Germans, together with the Jews, heavily falsified the history of Poland in the 19th century in order to hide that Germany was founded on Polish soil and Moscow was literally created by Poles. It was also hidden that the Levites with the dominant haplogroup R1a were illegitimate children of Polish Lechites.
"I am not sure about Greeks fleeing to Novorossiya in the 18th. century. Mariupol and Melitopol may not be Greek names, but Slavic names since ‘pol’ means ‘field’ in Slavic and the Greek state was not established till about 1830. Before that, and even now, Greeks are mainly Slavic, i.e. Slavic Makedonian and Serbian. Before about 1830 Greeks did not call themselves Greeks. They called themselves Romans because they were Slavs loyal to the Latin west. Friction between Greeks and Slavic Makedonians and Serbians, with other problems in the Balkans, will be the new problem early next year."
Thank you for this. In a different time I would have leapt at the opportunity to emigrate to Russia. I think it's future is incredibly bright. I'll send this to my eldest son. He's single. of the age to grasp it, and I'll encourage him to think about it.
Thank you for a brief but very informative article. I thought I knew a bit about Novorosiya I will now make it a point in looking up the TRUE.history of the country, thanks to you.
One thing is for sure, being from Germany and the way things are going here, many (I mean many) Germans will flock to the Donbass. It's just unfortunate that so few Germans know about the opportunities available to them. Much more intensive networking and advertising is necessary 👌 🙌 👏
If you are interested in coming here, you should get in touch with Maria Butina's office, I wrote about her efforts in a previous post on Substack. More and more people are showing up, especially from Germany.
Has the issue of feminism been mitigated in the Donbass region? Do women know their place in society and bear children, as men also took their role as soldiers? I would find it terrible if so many men died in war, and women were refusing to bear children and be good wives and mothers, instead choosing hedonism / consumerism, careers / money and hating on men, taking away men's children in divorces. How exactly do these issues play out, how are they solved? I find it unbearable that women would have any right to vote in a society so harmed by war. Such a society's decisions have to be taken by men only, without diversity quotas and egalitarianism.
I would appreciate if you could focus on anti-feminist measures, potentially in a future article. Thank you.
This is an epic tour of intra-Russian challenges fueled by Globalist would-be conquerors, but unfortunately stained by anti-Jewish distortions. Nowhere is there an explanation of why Putin remains cozy with Iran’s mullahs, who are the closest thing to marauding Ottomans in our modern world. After they push Israelis into the sea, they intend to wage Jihad on Christian nations, among which Russia ostensibly qualifies.
This piece you write as if written to me personally, yes I am very interested, for the reasons you describe and the sake of my family's future as I see nothing but failure in america. The idea of unhuman architecture is surprisingly similar to american modern neoliberal prisons, truly unhuman and void of human decency. Thank you for sharing you have given me hope.
The US elections and the next few months is going to be pivotal in terms of the Move to Russia phenomenon. If things go badly at any stage, during the elections and up to the first few months of Trump's 2nd term (if it happens), a lot of folks are going to want to move here.
And yes, modern architecture is a scourge which recognized no ideological boundaries, blighting both East and West. Truly a disaster. They should all be torn down.
This article, parts 1 and 2 have been republished on unz.com as one long piece. If you found this interesting, it's worth looking there at the comments section because they have a very well informed audience, and sometimes they drop important additional information. Here is one I just noticed there:
Odyssey says: Next New Comment
November 1, 2024 at 4:58 am GMT • 4.9 hours ago • 400 Words ↑
A good and refreshing text for Western readers who usually don’t have the opportunity to read something that is not under the strict control of the Western mainstream media and their masters. When it comes to Ukraine, a few things should be added.
In 1750, Serbian settlers (soldiers and civilians of the former Military Krajina) founded two settlements in Imperial Russia – Slaveno-Serbia and New Serbia, with their capital in Bakhmut. New Serbia was a purely Serbian colony, while in Slaveno-Serbia, in addition to the vast majority of Serbs, other nationalities also came (including the Greeks mentioned in the text). Part of the text talks about Donetsk, but now few people know that the original name of Donetsk, which was founded by Serbs, was Slavyanoserbsk. At that time, there were no Ukrainians and no Ukrainian language and no name ‘Ukraina’.
The very name ‘Ukraine’ (=borderland, in Serbian) was given after Military Krajina (=borderland) from where these settlers came. The Military Krajina was a Christian belt stretched from the Carpathians to the Adriatic Sea and was formed to defend Europe against Ottoman penetration and Islam. The Serbian Military Krajina defended Europe from Islam.
By the way, this settlement gave few Serbian generals who distinguished themselves in the war against Napoleon. In the beginning, Serbs had their own churches and autonomy, but because of their similarities with the Russians, they quickly assimilated.
Later, the communists (Lenin, Khrushchev) added some Russian provinces and Crimea to create an artificial republic of Ukraine within the USSR. It would be fair now, when Ukraine is freed from Ukronazies, to return the original name to that area – New Serbia.
Ukrainians are not a nation, they never existed, they had no state, no history, no language, no literature, no religion. What does Crimea have to do with Ukraine except that a drunken Khrushchev said one morning that it would belong to Soviet Ukraine or that Lenin also decided that Donbass would be Ukraine.
Ukrainians are an artificial category created by the Vatican and the US with the aim of being cannon fodder in the campaign against the Russians and the creation of new Khazaria. Ukrainians don’t even have a name because the current means Borderland. Whose borderland? Russian borderland!
Odyssey says:Next New Comment
November 1, 2024 at 10:14 am GMT • 22.0 hours ago • 100 Words ↑
@Dumbo
You are right. The frontier was very harsh. There are many descriptions of how the Serbs came to the territory where there was nothing, no settlements, they had no building materials and they lived in dugouts, no tools, no seeds for agriculture, no wells, nor could they get anything from the outside, the distances were huge.
They slowly managed to build settlements, churches, schools and other infrastructure. In the beginning, they had territorial, church and school autonomy, hundreds of toponyms identical to the toponyms from their previous homeland, Serbia, special military units, whose generals distinguished themselves in the war against Napoleon, but were too similar to the Russians, the Empire also had its own imperial logic so that were soon assimilated. Descendants of those Serbian pioneers are probably now fighting on both sides against each other.
What an insightful and informative tour you received and have described. Thank you.
[I read its reprint at The Unz Review before visiting to offer thanks.]
And here is a Polish-centric view. I think it's mistaken, but it's helpful to know some people think this way:
Anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:
November 1, 2024 at 9:13 pm GMT • 11.7 hours ago • 200 Words ↑
What a beautiful text sponsored by Moscow with lots of historical lies.
As a Pole, I am not a fan of either Russians or Ukrainians, but for centuries there has been a very clear distinction between these two nations in the Polish language. Ukrainians and Belarusians were called Ruthenians (Rusini) by Poles and Poles called Russians Muscovites (Moskale). For centuries, Ruthenians called Poles Lakhs/Lechs.
And this pseudo-Serbian troll didn’t come up with the idea that the toponym “Pol” could come from Poland? Kievan Rus was founded by the Poles (Polans/Polanie). This is recorded in Rutenian chronicles, as is the fact that Moscow was taken from the Finno-Ugric tribes by the Polish/Lechitic Vyatycze and Radimichi.
The Russians and Germans, together with the Jews, heavily falsified the history of Poland in the 19th century in order to hide that Germany was founded on Polish soil and Moscow was literally created by Poles. It was also hidden that the Levites with the dominant haplogroup R1a were illegitimate children of Polish Lechites.
Maps missing from this post, you can find them on the Unz article.
nokangaroos says:
November 1, 2024 at 2:12 pm GMT • 18.7 hours ago • 100 Words ↑
@Che Guava
Ad I. (((British))) enmity, while geopolitically counterindicated, began
“suddenly” with Catherine the Great´s institution of the Pale 1791; one consequence
was Britain invented the Balkan troubles by vetoing the Treaty of San Stefano 1878
because it would have given Russia de facto access to the Mediterranean
(through Bulgaria)
Ad II. Saint Vladimir the Little was correct that Ruthenian (“Bandera”/”Ukrainian”)
nationalism was an Austrian invention; look at the map.
Ad III. Oh yes.
As whatever will be left of the Ukraine will in effect be Greater Lemberg, what has that
to do with Kiew? Here´s the plebiscite of 1991 (the Verkhowna Juda ignored it,
declared independence nonetheless, then let vote again on the wording of the
declaration):
• Thanks: Che Guava
Another good comment on Unz repost:
"I am not sure about Greeks fleeing to Novorossiya in the 18th. century. Mariupol and Melitopol may not be Greek names, but Slavic names since ‘pol’ means ‘field’ in Slavic and the Greek state was not established till about 1830. Before that, and even now, Greeks are mainly Slavic, i.e. Slavic Makedonian and Serbian. Before about 1830 Greeks did not call themselves Greeks. They called themselves Romans because they were Slavs loyal to the Latin west. Friction between Greeks and Slavic Makedonians and Serbians, with other problems in the Balkans, will be the new problem early next year."
Finally a true reflection of what is happening in former parts of Ukraine., Tks, will share this immediately
Thank you for this. In a different time I would have leapt at the opportunity to emigrate to Russia. I think it's future is incredibly bright. I'll send this to my eldest son. He's single. of the age to grasp it, and I'll encourage him to think about it.
My Twitter DM's are open, he is welcome to write me directly.
Thank you for a brief but very informative article. I thought I knew a bit about Novorosiya I will now make it a point in looking up the TRUE.history of the country, thanks to you.
One thing is for sure, being from Germany and the way things are going here, many (I mean many) Germans will flock to the Donbass. It's just unfortunate that so few Germans know about the opportunities available to them. Much more intensive networking and advertising is necessary 👌 🙌 👏
If you are interested in coming here, you should get in touch with Maria Butina's office, I wrote about her efforts in a previous post on Substack. More and more people are showing up, especially from Germany.
Thanks, will go to that post.
Has the issue of feminism been mitigated in the Donbass region? Do women know their place in society and bear children, as men also took their role as soldiers? I would find it terrible if so many men died in war, and women were refusing to bear children and be good wives and mothers, instead choosing hedonism / consumerism, careers / money and hating on men, taking away men's children in divorces. How exactly do these issues play out, how are they solved? I find it unbearable that women would have any right to vote in a society so harmed by war. Such a society's decisions have to be taken by men only, without diversity quotas and egalitarianism.
I would appreciate if you could focus on anti-feminist measures, potentially in a future article. Thank you.
Lol pure bullshit propaganda.
This is an epic tour of intra-Russian challenges fueled by Globalist would-be conquerors, but unfortunately stained by anti-Jewish distortions. Nowhere is there an explanation of why Putin remains cozy with Iran’s mullahs, who are the closest thing to marauding Ottomans in our modern world. After they push Israelis into the sea, they intend to wage Jihad on Christian nations, among which Russia ostensibly qualifies.
Man, are you deluded. Is this a joke?
C’mon, man; tell me you haven’t read or heard Iranian leaders’ own words about destroying Israel!
This piece you write as if written to me personally, yes I am very interested, for the reasons you describe and the sake of my family's future as I see nothing but failure in america. The idea of unhuman architecture is surprisingly similar to american modern neoliberal prisons, truly unhuman and void of human decency. Thank you for sharing you have given me hope.
The US elections and the next few months is going to be pivotal in terms of the Move to Russia phenomenon. If things go badly at any stage, during the elections and up to the first few months of Trump's 2nd term (if it happens), a lot of folks are going to want to move here.
And yes, modern architecture is a scourge which recognized no ideological boundaries, blighting both East and West. Truly a disaster. They should all be torn down.